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PostSubject: Ripped off, any redress?   Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:13 pm

I have had my company in Bulgaria since January 2008. The first person I approached to do my accounts failed to do anything and I must admit I let it lapse for too long so I failed to do returns for 'o8 and '09. I finally thought I had them sorted in December last year when I asked an estate agent who advertise on Ebay to do them. I see they are still offering this service on Ebay UK. It looks like they just took my money and did nothing as I'm now told no financial reports have been published for my company. In UK I would be able to report them for suspected fraud but is there any equivalent redress in Bulgaria? I only have emails, no paper documentation for evidence.

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PostSubject: Re: Ripped off, any redress?   Fri Feb 11, 2011 11:26 pm

It would be interesting for all of us to know who these people are so that we can all make an informed decssion, as to' do you have any redress I don't know ? but we do have a lot of members on here who are all very experienced and may have some answers.
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PostSubject: Re: Ripped off, any redress?   Sat Feb 12, 2011 12:14 am

If you report the company to Ebay they will do something about it. Ebay take a dim view of anyone contravening their rules and regulations.
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PostSubject: Re: Ripped off, any redress?   Sat Feb 12, 2011 6:11 am

this happened to someone we know, they had land in bulgaria for 6 years, paid a company in varna to deal with the paperwork and they did not do it either. it was easily sorted with some small fines to pay. redress non, the company had attitude.

we see it as a crime, unfortunently, in the eyes of the law.........it is a civil matter .

it is the same in the uk, ok you can inform trading standards, but it is you that has to take the company to court.

I agree with the other poster, inform ebay. g
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PostSubject: Re: Ripped off, any redress?   Sat Feb 12, 2011 7:11 am

Report them to the Bulgarian financial Police. If they are ripping you off they are probably avoiding tax as well,a topic which is high on the Governments agenda. There is a branch of this Police department in every large Town

I only threatened someone once with the Financial Police and had instant response.

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PostSubject: Re: Ripped off, any redress?   Sun Feb 13, 2011 7:35 am

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It would be interesting for all of us to know who these people are so that we can all make an informed decssion, as to' do you have any redress I don't know ? but we do have a lot of members on here who are all very experienced and may have some answers.

My problem is that I cannot be 100% certain of what has or has not been published for my company as I didn't do the check myself. If anyone wants details they are welcome to send me a PM but obviously I don't want to put anything potentially libelous on an open forum.

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PostSubject: Re: Ripped off, any redress?   Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:26 pm

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Report them to the Bulgarian financial Police. If they are ripping you off they are probably avoiding tax as well,a topic which is high on the Governments agenda. There is a branch of this Police department in every large Town

I only threatened someone once with the Financial Police and had instant response.

Tony

:Howdy:Good day Tony

Report them to the Bulgarian financial Police. Do they have a special or seperate division for these sort of things, because I find the BG police on the whole a total waste of space

I only threatened someone once with the Financial Police and had instant response, you were lucky, I truely wish I could report the same result, but I can't
If the Sofia Supreme Court's final documents awarded me and my family damages all legal costs and court fees amounting to nearly 10.000 euro are not forthcoming then all the threats in the world are not going to have any impact
I have now been imformed that if I want to persue it I need to engage and pay a lawyer to recover [size=150:1tempnq8]OUR MONEY. Has the world (Bulgaria) gone mad or have I Has any member on this forum had the same misfortunes, if so how did you achieve a result
Only positive answers please
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PostSubject: Re: Ripped off, any redress?   Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:43 pm

Tony[/quote]

Good day Tony

Report them to the Bulgarian financial Police. Do they have a special or seperate division for these sort of things, because I find the BG police on the whole a total waste of space

I only threatened someone once with the Financial Police and had instant response, you were lucky, I truely wish I could report the same result, but I can't
If the Sofia Supreme Court's final documents awarded me and my family damages all legal costs and court fees amounting to nearly 10.000 euro are not forthcoming then all the threats in the world are not going to have any impact
I have now been imformed that if I want to persue it I need to engage and pay a lawyer to recover [size=150:245gbsvq]OUR MONEY. Has the world (Bulgaria) gone mad or have I Has any member on this forum had the same misfortunes, if so how did you achieve a result
Only positive answers please [/quote]

I cannot comment on your personal circumstances. But I do think that we have heard the same story over and over again.

As where these Financial Police are you would have to ask in your own locality . They are like the Inland Revenue in the UK as best I understand.

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PostSubject: Re: Ripped off, any redress?   Sun Feb 13, 2011 12:43 pm

Tony[/quote]

Good day Tony

Report them to the Bulgarian financial Police. Do they have a special or seperate division for these sort of things, because I find the BG police on the whole a total waste of space

I only threatened someone once with the Financial Police and had instant response, you were lucky, I truely wish I could report the same result, but I can't
If the Sofia Supreme Court's final documents awarded me and my family damages all legal costs and court fees amounting to nearly 10.000 euro are not forthcoming then all the threats in the world are not going to have any impact
I have now been imformed that if I want to persue it I need to engage and pay a lawyer to recover [size=150:33cjadd8]OUR MONEY. Has the world (Bulgaria) gone mad or have I Has any member on this forum had the same misfortunes, if so how did you achieve a result
Only positive answers please [/quote]

I cannot comment on your personal circumstances. But I do think that we have heard the same story over and over again.

As where these Financial Police are you would have to ask in your own locality . They are like the Inland Revenue in the UK as best I understand.

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PostSubject: Re: Ripped off, any redress?   Thu Apr 14, 2011 2:41 pm

I am presuming that you supplied this agent with a power of attorney and your company documents and stamp as if not he would not have been able to do this work for you, if you did this you have the proof they have comitted fraud go to an advocate they will commence legal proceedings if you have proof of the money you paid them go to the police yet again this is fraud which they tend to look at it as corruption so they is legal redress if you want further information please pm me I will do what I can to help have been helped other people in this situation
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PostSubject: Re: Ripped off, any redress?   Thu Apr 14, 2011 4:46 pm

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this is fraud which they tend to look at it as corruption so they is legal redress if you want further information please pm me

Hi Adele

Welcome to the forum

Can you please clarify that you are fully qualified and registered to give legal advice on such issues please?

If not, then please offer 'advice' from personal experience on open-forum, not via private messages.

If you are a fully registered lawyer / advocate / notary / etc., then carry on!

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PostSubject: Re: Ripped off, any redress?   Thu Apr 14, 2011 11:12 pm

As adele says you should have some sort of redress but looking at how old this post is I should think he or she has sorted it by now?
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PostSubject: Re: Ripped off, any redress?   Fri Apr 15, 2011 12:21 am

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this is fraud which they tend to look at it as corruption so they is legal redress if you want further information please pm me

Hi Adele

Welcome to the forum

Can you please clarify that you are fully qualified and registered to give legal advice on such issues please?

If not, then please offer 'advice' from personal experience on open-forum, not via private messages.

If you are a fully registered lawyer / advocate / notary / etc., then carry on!

Many Thanks


Good point Chris no one unless qualified to do so should ever offer legal advice, I know sometimes we all think we are helping but advice from a none qualified person is bad advice and some people will listen to whats said and believe it even if its wrong so unless you are qualified the best advice you should offer is "
They should seek legal advice from a qualified person"
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PostSubject: Re: Ripped off, any redress?   Fri Apr 15, 2011 6:44 am

You have to the end of June to publish your companys report, but have you re registered your company??? Firstly you need to know if your company is re registered?? you have until Dec to get this done, you cant re register until you have sorted out your tax, you cant publish your companies report until you have re registered. So my advise to you would be to try to find out exactly what has and has not been done.

Willowsend I fully agree with you regarding the police and I feel your story should be told again and again as you achieved something and people should be aware. I am afraid that as for the fraud part of the police they never seem to do anything. so Tony you must be a very lucky person

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PostSubject: Re: Ripped off, any redress?   Fri Apr 15, 2011 7:46 am

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You have to the end of June to publish your companys report, but have you re registered your company??? Firstly you need to know if your company is re registered?? you have until Dec to get this done, you cant re register until you have sorted out your tax, you cant publish your companies report until you have re registered. So my advise to you would be to try to find out exactly what has and has not been done.

Willowsend I fully agree with you regarding the police and I feel your story should be told again and again as you achieved something and people should be aware. I am afraid that as for the fraud part of the police they never seem to do anything. so Tony you must be a very lucky person

As I said in my first post, my company was started in Jan. 2008 so it is on the new system and does not need to be re-registered. I was back in Bulgaria a few weeks ago to sort this out with a new accountant. I have now been shown how to check the accounts publishing on the appropriate website so I will be able to confirm that the 2010 return is in place.

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