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PostSubject: Can you believe this?   Fri Feb 10, 2017 6:02 pm

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The following rant may well belong in another category, but I can't think where...

Short story first....

...I was issued with a valid drivers licence in Australia way back in May of 1965 and since that time I have never been without a current and valid licence, regardless of where I was residing/working etc...this often meant that I would be holding a legal/valid licence for
more than one country, or state, at the same time, all the time keeping my Aust one current. No legal issues involved. No traffic infringements, no accident history, no restrictions or sanctions ever imposed anywhere....squeeky clean history. Early 2004 I moved to the UK and because I thought I would probably reside there for the rest of my life, I chose to do the "right thing" and obtain a UK drivers licence so I attended the closest DVLA and began the process. It's worth a mention that I had been driving for some 39 years and held valid classifications for normal cars, LGV, HGV, RoadTrain (up to 250 tons GVW and 3 trailers), All classes of bus or coach (single and double deck, rigid body and articulated), Taxi, Hire car, Motorcycle (unlimited capacity), any type of tractor or agricultural implement (tracked or wheeled). My logbook (certified and validated) clearly showed that I had recorded a little over 4 MILLION miles operating/driving all of the above classes, including many miles on UK roads driving a tour coach on UK and European roads and had been through many checkpoints without a problem...the young lady on the counter that day in Lincoln would only give me a licence to drive a manual car...and I had to hand in all of my other licences before I could get a UK version.

Let's jump forward to this situation...

...I noticed a couple of days ago, that my UK licence had expired and decided to go for a Bulgarian one. I don't drive very much these days, but it would be handy to have a valid one. Mrs Bazz popped up to the local KAT (Plovdiv) office and asked about what needed to be done. The answer might surprise some of you...

The applicant needs to provide proof of having a current first aid certificate, PLUS a current medical examination, PLUS a verifiable certificate showing that he/she has completed year 8 of schooling and that he or she has undertaken a certain number of hours of driving school training. The fact that I have earned two degrees mean nothing...I have a BA and a B.Sc and I can't prove I actually went to High School, because if those records ever existed , they have been lost. I have all my Uni records but they will not be accepted because the bit in the middle is missing.

The strangest bit is about to be revealed...as many of you know, I'm a retired airline pilot...I used to fly for one of the best companies in the Western world and I used to fly into and out of this country on a very regular basis...my credentials were NEVER questioned, nor should they have ever been. If I could sit at the controls of an aircraft, with 200+ people, sitting behind me, trusting my judgement to keep them safe...why do I have to jump through these hoops, just to drive to the corner store???

I'm sorry if I've bored you stupid.

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PostSubject: Re: Can you believe this?   Sun Feb 12, 2017 10:11 am

so if you apply independently you can keep your UK one and also the BG? is that correctly

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PostSubject: subject   Wed Mar 01, 2017 10:53 am

For those who might be interested, here's an update...

As I wrote, sometime back, I was searching online for a way to get proof of my Oz education...I managed to find the relevent dept and sent off an email explaining what I needed and why. They were quick to reply and suggested that I apply and pay for a copy of my ' Junior Certificate', which is about equivalent to a HSC. They also pointed out that detailed school records only go back as far as 1973 and they noted that as I had completed high school in 1963, the only record I had available to me was the certificate mentioned above.
I sent off for this record and when it duly arrived, presented it, along with all my other documents, to the dept here. Guess what....
...because this certificate does not specifically mention that I had attended year 8 in high school, it was of no value!! I pointed out that this certificate is the only valid record of high school achievement which is available to an Australian citizen and to be awarded one, every student completes 10 years of schooling before being able to sit the qualifying examinations.

It made no difference...the certificate doesn't mention the 'year 8' thing, therefore they won't accept it!

Wifey paid them a visit this morning, armed with every diploma, licences etc that I possess...she pleaded my case and patiently explained everything to them...all to no avail!! Now I'm very Angry

So I remain unable to legally drive on the road.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you believe this?   Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:10 pm

Hi Justbazz,

Wow sounds like bureaucracy gone mad!!
Have you tried contacting your Embassy in Sofia?

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PostSubject: subject   Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:24 pm

Sadly, we don't have one in Sofia, just a non resident Consul...most business is conducted in Athens. The last time I contacted the Sofia office, enquiring about the Australia Day celebrations in Bulgaria, they informed me that they had no record of any Australians actually living in this country. I feel like I'm invisible!

Thanks for the suggestion anyway. g
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PostSubject: Re: Can you believe this?   Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:30 pm

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Sadly, we don't have one in Sofia, just a non resident Consul...most business is conducted in Athens. The last time I contacted the Sofia office, enquiring about the Australia Day celebrations in Bulgaria, they informed me that they had no record of any Australians actually living in this country. I feel like I'm invisible!

Thanks for the suggestion anyway. g

Maybe not so invisible and alone!

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PostSubject: subject   Wed Mar 01, 2017 6:45 pm

Thanks for the link...I've been here 11 years and never heard of that site, but then again, I've never come across any other Aussies either!

Just adding to my reply to Bill...the Honorary Consul for Australia is actually a Bulgarian lady, Ms Indiana Trifonova.
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PostSubject: Re: Can you believe this?   Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:14 am

Well done BGIan good link g

You may already have these details but just in case :-

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I would not 'lie down' on this one and hope you manage to resolve it


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PostSubject: subject   Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:34 am

Thanks Bill...yes, I do have those details and have used them in the past.

The first experience with her was when I needed to renew my passport...I ended up contacting the embassy in Athens because repeated emails brought no response and the phone was never picked up! The second time was the enquiry regarding Australia Day celebrations...and you know what that response was.

Thanks for the interest.
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PostSubject: subject   Fri Mar 03, 2017 7:29 pm

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Sadly, we don't have one in Sofia, just a non resident Consul...most business is conducted in Athens. The last time I contacted the Sofia office, enquiring about the Australia Day celebrations in Bulgaria, they informed me that they had no record of any Australians actually living in this country. I feel like I'm invisible!

Thanks for the suggestion anyway. g

Maybe not so invisible and alone!

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Just following up with this bit.


It is quite an interesting group of people...not so much a forum,more like a chamber of commerce which forms groups to network with each other. It only has a base in Sofia, but it has a very large membership, most of whom are Bulgarian. The Australian members (excluding me) are mostly company reps from abroad who spend some time here to represent their employer...the greater majority of them don't actually live here fulltime. I joined up anyway, because I enjoy meeting new people (even if it's just online)!

Thanks again for the link BGIan.

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PostSubject: Re: Can you believe this?   Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:44 pm

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PostSubject: subject   Tue Mar 07, 2017 11:28 am

Meanwhile, back at the ranch....while waiting for some type of result from the Education Dept bods, I'm off for a detailed medical examination shortly, which is just another step in the ongoing saga.

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PostSubject: Re: Can you believe this?   Tue Mar 07, 2017 5:55 pm

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Meanwhile, back at the ranch....while waiting for some type of result from the Education Dept bods, I'm off for a detailed medical examination shortly, which is just another step in the ongoing saga.


Hi Bazz hope the medical examination went well adn there was no complications re the red tape. You will get there but sounds like there are lots and lots of hurdles to cross first. So very sorry for your troubles and will be praying for a quick result soon. Big hugs H H H

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PostSubject: subject   Tue Mar 07, 2017 7:23 pm

Actually, it's the red tape which is causing the problem...I see the same thing happening if the UK leaves the EU, because you guys may end up in the same boat...I doubt that getting a BG licence will be any easier for you. I hope I'm wrong.

The medical went well, thankfully. Almost an hour having blood taken, peeing in a bottle, blood pressure, hearing, balance, heart rate, breathing check and so on. Tomorrow I'm off to the eye specialist for the eyesight test...the whole exercise is almost as involved as my last pilots medical. At least I'll know that I'm healthy.

All for the grand sum of 420 leva! Just hope the education question can be settled so I can then go ahead and actually apply for a licence...no refunds permitted!



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PostSubject: Re: Can you believe this?   Tue Mar 07, 2017 8:05 pm

g You see I told you all that dancing is good for you La Angel Angel

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PostSubject: subject   Wed Mar 08, 2017 4:40 am

Dancing good...result, not so much! Chucking it down now!



OOPs! mayb I sent you the rain dance STOP IT IMMEDIATELY been raining here from about 5pm to about 11pm last night so grounds are quite wet hope the wood does not come today as lorry will sink into ground Hot
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